Talk:Art Theft (copying)/@comment-16268456-20140215212252/@comment-16268456-20140222223231

Well, yeah, but what if some people never saw the original picture before? They think the person "referecening" created it themselves. Some people are bound to say, "Hey, I like this picture, I'm gonna copy it!" Sure, that's not exactly what they're saying, but they copy the exact thing. I don't think that's a reference, because they even made the character look the same. Apparently to you guys, copying poses is "referencing" again and not even copying. If you're gonna reference something, you don't make an obnoxious copy of it, you study the picture and take in things you see from it. That's what we all did when we first drew, we used a cat or dog for reference to know what an ear or tail looked like, or a wolf or osc on create to learn how they look for reference. So when someone copies a pose, it's a reference, but if someone puts the same character in and copies the pose, the picture they "referenced" is now a copy. Haha, that doesn't make sense if you ask me. You can steal poses and characters, but you can't steal a body part. If it's gonna be called a "reference" in this picture, then the person would've just looked at the hands or face to see how people draw them. Sometimes you use your own hand or a hand from a picture to reference, that's a reference. If you copy the whole damn thing, it's a copy! That person didn't just  copy the pose, they copied the character too. Even if it was a pose, it should still be considered a copy since the pose was stolen from another piece of artwork. You can't steal a body part, but you can steal a pose. So unless it's from something popular, for example, MJ's picture of her as Anna/Elsa from Frozen, then it's in a way a reference.

Not to mention this person didn't give credit, even though they probably couldn't they most likely still wouldn't give credit. Is my point clear? I guess I shouldn't have asked if I knew it was a copy, sorry -_- (Also, wow, my typing skills are really off today, I had to retype words a LOT)